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  • 12:02 Bones is making me CRY. #
  • 15:47 Obviously I have spent today wasting my time. Except... Jethro Gibbs is never a waste of time. #
  • 16:48 Curious. Jeanne Benoit and Jenny Sheppard have quite similar bone structures. #
  • 16:54 Also: whenever the camera cuts to Jenny, it loses focus. HARSH. #
  • 17:35 Ziva's hair, zomg. (Yeah, okay, lots of spam today.) #
  • 22:26 God, TONY. What an ASSHOLE. #
  • 22:29 And this, guys and gals, is what we call PTSD. How is anyone surprised by this as a reaction from Ziva? #

Date: 2008-05-21 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sepiaxtoned.livejournal.com
How much awesome is Ziva's new hair? I squeeed in a female crush kinda way over it. So pretty.

I did seem a little shocked about her reaction though, being a Mossad killer and all but I guess PTSD happens to anyone right?

Date: 2008-05-21 08:55 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] delgaserasca.livejournal.com
PTSD happens to anyone human. If you think about what happened to her and combine it with the fact that it's not like she's living in a place where that killer mentality is actively condoned... I mean, Jethro says, it's necessary, and he believes in necessary death. But to Ziva it's like it was too close. She should have been faster. That's where her shock comes from. And then Tony is making her doubt her judgement re: Locke, and it's messing with her head. (God, I love that scene in the morgue where Jethro's all 'is that what this is all about? You're questioning your judgement?' because you KNOW he'd never brook that shit with Kate (because it would be overly self-involved guilt) but seeing it in Ziva is worrying. That something so real to her can shake her is worrying for him. And that has to stretch back not only to her capability in working for NCIS but all the way back to Ari. Because if she starts to judge all her actions, to doubt them, then she starts to doubt the foundation on which her relationship with Jethro is founded.)

Yes, I did think about this all night. Does it show?

Date: 2008-05-21 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sepiaxtoned.livejournal.com
I think you have, this whole not too much academia is affecting your fangirl.

Jethro definitely wouldn't pull that shit with Kate. But I have to agree seeing Ziva struggle like that is out of character, Tony by nature does toy with their emotions (constantly taking the mick out of McGee/McTimex/McGeek etc.) but this time it went to far for Ziva, he played with her vulnerability too much!

Date: 2008-05-21 12:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] delgaserasca.livejournal.com
The root element of PTSD? Real people acting out of character. So that's why the ooc doesn't strike me as incorrect.

Tony, what. the. fuck. I mean, I sort of get it? Ziva stepped up at the end of the previous episode - be a man. And there's got to be some resentment there. But on the other hand: what the fuck is going on there? That relationship has been through the wringer recently. I can't tell if he couldn't handle Ziva's swing in personality, or if he was actively annoyed with her. (He's so much more interesting when he's being an ass.)

Date: 2008-05-21 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sepiaxtoned.livejournal.com
It's a vastly different side to their relationship in S3 when she was all concerned over why he kept disappearing, verging on the obsessive, in the undercover storyline. Could it be jealousy over Jeane?

Date: 2008-05-21 12:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] delgaserasca.livejournal.com
On her part, you mean? I feel like Ziva stepped up and did the right thing at the end of the Grenouille episode - she didn't patronise him, she laid out the facts. He needed to tell Jeanne what Jeanne needed to hear. Be a man. Ziva was the straight man at the end of the episode, instead of being clingy and obsessive as she once was prone. Because of course, for Ziva, the decision here is a very different one: what is best for Tony? (She made the right move; in my mind, there's no denying that.)

But Tony's resentment plays out like a harsher version of Ziva's poorly-masked concern/envy. At one point Tony seems to make the decision that if Ziva can't take his haphazard approach at sympathy, then he's got to play hardball. And in a way, that too is probably the best he could do because open sympathy from him would be patronising. She wouldn't take it, and she wouldn't respect it. As it is, the stuff with Locke is just poorly timed. Tony doesn't understand - and Ziva doesn't communicate to him - that Ziva is doubting herself. So when Tony is trying to snap his fingers in front of her face, trying to shake her out of her fugue (which is exactly what he confesses to doing early in the episode), what Ziva hears is 'you were wrong, you are still wrong'. The message is garbled. (And why is the message garbled? Because these are two people who still fail to speak the same language. They can do levity like nobody's business because levity is a lie, levity is a cover, and they are people who cover. But they cannot do truth because the truth is too close to home.)

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