{ the thing you had to learn was the thing you thought you knew. }

[delga]

(1/1) OK, excuse me for being VERY EXCITED, but my upload finally worked!

(1/2) Once or twice a year I go through through a bizarre laptop-associated OCD phase.

(1/3) Flisters who have had ducks for 10 days, please to be sending them on to their next destination please.

(1/4) So, the thing in Wembley was a good time.

(2/5) Harryette Mullen's S*PeRM**K*T (SpermKit) is amazing, which is a good thing, because now I have something to write my essay on.

(1/6) UM, HAI THAR. IT'S JUNE.

(1/7) Swollen throat. OW OW OW.

(1/8) Haiku-a-thon, part deux.

(1/9) So, all things considered, The Fairy's thing was a good night.

(1/10) I've been trying to get my numb3rswom3n challenge fic off the ground, and as ever I have only the vaguest idea of what I want the fic to be about.

(1/11) I've heard a lot of fuss and bother about this recently and I'm confused because (a) I didn't realise there was a feature in LJ itself to turn these things off (i.e. viewing options) and (b) I shut the thing off inside itself, and haven't had a problem since?

(1/12) I need to find somewhere else to work.

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I'm just C&P-ing this from spooky_doings because I have very little else to add. Ros is quite obviously FABULOUS. One of the things that I like about her is that she's so hardcore and unrelenting through and through, and I just don't think we get enough female characters like that in any show. That's the reason why I love Tessa, and Juliet, and Ros, like those two, ultimately turns out to play the other side of the field sometimes. But what I LOVE about Ros' arc this season is that she isn't just the disenchanted female agent who gets kicked from the crew - we were actually reading her conflicts in the situation. (She had some FANTASTIC lines. "Now isn't the time to patronise me, Harry - don't you know any jokes?!") At the end of it, there was nothing apologetic about Ros. She rationalises and rationalises and rationalises, but she's always known what she's been doing. And what is so tragic about this whole sequence of events is that she turned to Yalta because of Zaf.

And bless Norris. Woman is SO PREGNANT.

In other news: Malcolm and Connie continue to rock my socks off.

Also: I KNEW that was Juliet when I saw the back of her crazy 'do. Doesn't mean I didn't scream when I saw her.

Addendum: I wish I didn't find all that crap with Adam so annoying, but I do, because I feel that whilst Ros proved to be quite sensible (in the field, it wouldn't work, etc. etc.; there was something so fabulous about that confrontation in the tall grass; both of them were so true to their individual characterisations) she was still— her hard edge diminished a little bit, didn't it? And it's not that I think she's heartless, far from it, I just think she's so practical, so UNCOMPROMISING. And I think that the only reason she really changed from that was the near-drowning at the end of season 5. I just find her so FASCINATING. She's so CALCULATING. She has clear allegiances and ideas and ideals but they're flexible, just like for anyone. And that's also why I love the way she was portrayed in season 5, especially in the episode when Ruth leaves, because no-one really trusts Ros, and she just doesn't care - she doesn't justify herself to them. All the way through this episode, she's thinking, thinking, thinking, and she apologises because that's the truth of how she feels, but she NEVER, she NEVER stops to make excuses for herself. She never explains herself to Adam or Harry. She's so... autonomous. She is just that ballsy. I love her.

Addendum II: This Juliet would make so much sense to Tessa.

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Give me women. Strong women. Human women. Hamlet is Hamlet, caught between two worlds, and never making up his mind. Hamlet dies because he can't make a decision. Hamlet dies out of horrible chance. Ophelia dies, too. But Ophelia makes a decision and runs with it. Adam Carter is Hamlet, and Adam Carter bores me witless with his inability to stay the course. Not like Ros.

Ultimately, does it matter if the end result is the same? Both Hamlet and Ophelia are dead. But Hamlet had a place in the world that was prescribed for him, Hamlet had choices, whilst Ophelia was cast aside, dependent on her father. The woman-figure was cast aside. And I think if Adam Carter is our 'hero', then Ros is our Ophelia, because the plot was against her from the start. I'm not saying she was dependent, not in any sense of the word, because it's a different world now; but look at the tradition of women in the Spooks-verse. Look at how you're one woman or the other. Ophelia went into the pool knowing where she was going, knowing why. In all likelihood she was terrified. Don't tell me she could have walked away: the plot was against her from the start.

There's a lot of water about.

Comments

[passionflows.livejournal.com]

[here via spooky_doings]

I have to agree wrt Adam/Ros. While I ended up enjoying them in the end, I do think the relationship with Adam . . . I don't want to say weakened or cheapened Ros, because ultimately I don't think it did, but it feels like the only reason the writers went there was because they wanted more Adam angst. Ros was a strong yet vulnerable character without adding Adam into the mix. Something about the relationship always felt a bit gratuitous to me.

This Juliet would make so much sense to Tessa.

She would, wouldn't she? I almost wish they'd bring back Tessa, but I think she belongs to a different era of Spooks, really. I loved her, though.

Oh, and I think you're spot-on with the Ophelia analogy. It's like that line of Juliet's in this episode, the one about Ros never really fitting in. It's a shame Hermione Norris getting pregnant meant she had to leave the show; I used to hope that she would take over as the main senior case officer of Section D after Adam left. Oh, well.

(Also, I've friended you; hope you don't mind.)

[delgaserasca.livejournal.com]

Answering in reverse! Kinda. Anyway, no, I don't mind! I just didn't know if you wanted me to friend you back? I have lots of lurkers. Also: I talk a lot of crap.

Yeah, I think with Adam there needs to be a serious character return by the end of the season, otherwise he won't be redeemed.

Norris is back next season, as far as I know. I linked to an article recently... somewhere in the comm.

Juliet's line really, really struck me because it was so true. I am full of Ros meta. I need to think about it some more and talk about it tomorrow.

[passionflows.livejournal.com]

You can friend me back if you want? Obviously you're not obligated to, as mostly I just talk about university and television shows perhaps five people on my flist watch. It's fun.

I remember reading that article. I think if she's coming back, it might have something to do with Adam's exit, whatever that may be. (Unless he is leaving this season; I've heard different stories.) I can see the writers wanting to give them a happy ending. I could be completely off base, of course.

Ros meta sounds interesting! It's nice to see her get some attention; I don't think she (and Hermione Norris) really gets her due.